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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:30 pm Reply with quote
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mint

rare

original

brassing

museum quality

choice

RR grade

onE of a kind

unique

great investment/investment quality

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:45 pm Reply with quote
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how about NOS ?

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Yes, agreed Wayne; most do not know what NOS means, much less is.

This also runs along the lines of "mint" which is a place and not a condition--not to be confused with mint state which involves coins.

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Double Hunter

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:01 pm Reply with quote
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I am still trying to figure that one out! Rolling Eyes Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:59 am Reply with quote
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RR grade is semi-legit, but difficult to define because of all the exceptions down the years.

Now I would like to know what "brassing" really means, if it's not what I thought it always was, which is brass showing through the outer gold / amalgam or whatever coat.

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This is where I first encountered the term "brassing"-basically the black paint wearing off to show the brass underneath.

I immediately understood it when I started collecting watches, but do not use it in my own descriptions of watches. I've also become reluctant to use it on cameras Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:14 am Reply with quote
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Kenny, in many circles everyone refers to watches as RR watches.

Brassing is a slang made up term for watches. If a GF watch is heavily worn with brass showings, it has brass showing and is not brassing!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:27 pm Reply with quote
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Oh, okay, Got it.

People do often get careless with the terms.

And there are goofy phrases out there too, like "needs cleaned," which may be old English or something, but sounds stupid.
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KennyHabeeb wrote:


And there are goofy phrases out there too, like "needs cleaned," which may be old English or something, but sounds stupid.


IGNORANCE OF GRAMMAR!

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"Gold Flashed"

In any of the Waltham literature I have read they had called it gilt damaskeen.

And in the same literature it is "damaskeen" not damascene.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:42 pm Reply with quote
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Agreed

I always used the "correct" term and was admonished on the green bored, so I switched. (I forgot about that W ltham entry)

NOW I SHALL SWITCH BACK! Wink

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S Mercer wrote:
"Gold Flashed"

In any of the Waltham literature I have read they had called it gilt damaskeen.

And in the same literature it is "damaskeen" not damascene.


Can you guys clarify this one?

What do you call watches that are nickel that have the gilt damaskeening, as opposed to the true Gilt watches that are damaskeened.

Some of the model 72's that are gilt are also damaskeened.

Some of the model 88's that are nickel are gilded and then damaskeened.

I need to see a distinction made between both!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:18 pm Reply with quote
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gilt damascened

flashed gilt over nickel

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:40 pm Reply with quote
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old habits die hard -- I think you meant to write gilt damaskeened.
(I have to remember that one myself)
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